Remington primer production capacity has never been great. Hodgdon has powder available all the time for resale to the public. Cant find one single primer locally due to out of staters buying & hoarding local stocks. Casting aspersions of being anti-gun and pigeon holing those who disagree with that interpretation is groundless. We have created some very stringent limitations on the purchase of primers in an effort to help as many people as possible work through this extremely tough time. They should lift some regulations and let Americans be Americans. Search Showing. Thank you, Bryan R., for this very informative and comprehensive message. This all started when Obama put a limit on the amount of lead a business can either store or order. Expansion Industries, an ammunition manufacturing company whose corporate offices are based out of Carrollton, Texas, is preparing to open a manufacturing facility here. Over the past couple years here in The Peoples Republic of Illinois I have pooled my finances and purchased the contents of a couple gun shops being forced out of business, sold off the stuff I did not need to recoup some of my expenses. CCI Primers #11 Percussion Caps 100-Count $ 11 99 11 dollars 99 cents. However I can never walk through a gun shop without buying somethinggood shootin. We still have products were receiving from orders placed in February and March and most of those items are only being received in partial quantities. Its like when your electricity goes out during a storm or whatever, you just dont realize how much you take flipping a switch, (or having a plentiful supply of primers to choose from), for granted until its GONE. Put him first and he will lead us to where we need to be! Refine by Primer Style: 209 In-Line 209M. However, Ive recently seen .22 LR (if you can find it) going for up to 30 cents per round! Details. The larger players are now on notice their gravy train is about to pull into the station. Im no longer that desperate. Remember the Obama primer shortage? Thats WHY!!! I have cut back my consumption of all feeds to my gunning activities, shooting less and enjoying it less. Your report has put a lot of the rumors to rest for me . I have a large supply of miscellaneous CCI and Remington primers that are from 20 to 30 years old and have not had a misfire yet. Capitalism is dead and we fall victim to 1 supply chain breaking a link. Thank you for this post! I have been reloading for 30 years, and a competitive shooter. I check PV everyday for a glimmer of hope for 1,000 Primers. So I load for almost nothing if I can get primers. Thanks for publishing it. Magnum and std large rifle primers are the most difficult to locate, the std being the hardest. Yikes. Or all over the place like Tula and Fiocchi, I really hated both of those. https://www.brighteon.com/3b58b1dc-107d-4341-b9da-3955499d8281, https://www.bullseyenorth.com/reloading-primers/browse/page/2. A$20 hazmat fee is not worth it when your competitors have 5k limits. I have been a customer for a number of years . Available. Thank you Powder Valley Inc. for explaining and bringing clarity to the primer shortage. B. Bullspotter Private. I suppose one could make it cheaper but he wouldnt be doing so with variety and precision. The personal ammo makers are a huge part of their sales and will always be there because they are loyal shooters. In 2008 we saw a huge influx of Russian primers. Many people think that when a company like us places an order with the manufacturer that we receive the order in x number of days. Yellow box Norinco .223 would often result in pierced primers. I encourage all to pray and wait on the Lord. Refine by Primer Style: 209M 50 Caliber BMG. The places stocking and selling primers albeit at a higher cost from $70 to $100 (more than in the old time) have been Brownells, Midway, and Powder Valley. All testing should stop because the false numbers they produce are driving public hysteria. Hodkinson says the risk of death for people under the age of 65 is one in three-hundred thousand and it is outrageous to shut down society for what is merely just another bad flu. https://www.brighteon.com/3b58b1dc-107d-4341-b9da-3955499d8281 So to top it off we have a primer shortage due to a HOAX. Hogden sources some of their range from Mulwex (owned now by Thales) in Australia. The warts never came back but I never did that again. I suggest the rest of the reloaders reading this forum quietly build up their own stock pile when the current shortage is over. Its gonna squeeze the major players hard, and about time. I wish you would allow for customers to back order through the website. I am thankful that most responsible gun owners do not see things the same as you and fully understand the threat that is on our doorstep. We the people, the voters on either side, are all in the same boat. Labor to run it would be a whole lot cheaper. I guess the main thing that causes me to question the validity of this primer shortage and/or ammo shortage in general is that you can go to a website like bullseye north and see that theres plenty available in Canada. Good news: investors are doing just that, starting up a new company in the great state of Texas dedicated to making primers by the truckload. I keep saying this country is on a runaway train and the end of the track is out there somewhere. 99. Or RCBS ? At least Im getting 209as for $40 now. Dealers cant keep 9mm pistols on the shelves. And for 95% of people thats the best way to handle it. I really think manufacturers are hoarding for the uncertainty of our election, I agree with you when you take GOD out of everything,well just read what he did to Israelites !! $0.013 - $110.99. No coercion necessary, all they have to do is sell theirs cheaper than the start-up, and they put them out of business. Maybe 1 case of each type of primers per order plus whatever powder or other items desired? As it takes about a minute per round to reload, you're looking at spending at least 16 hours to produce . Remington simply did not have the financial capabilities to have an abundance of raw materials on hand and had to shutter some of their production capacity. Watching our brothers running around playing Cowboy and Indians! If I remove my firing pin and drill out my primer pocket, could cannon fuse be used in place of primers? Not holding my breath until I see the outcome / output of the company. Thank you very much for your insight and information. Prices that were quoted were very much in line. I wont turn on my fellow American, but Ill have to defend my family. In the interest of fairness, an allocation method should be devised using a civilian wait list, so that we can get in line to purchase to purchase a primers when and if they become available. That's a significant increase from the previous all-time high of 28 million background checks in 2019. are rarely conquered. Check With Your Local Ammo. When i retired 18 years ago i started to stock up on anything i thought i might need so i am pretty well supplied. Thank you for this very well thought out article. Possibly by federal taxes on on components as they plan on semi- automatic rifles. Thats why I prime on a different press. Manufacturers are, for the most part, unwilling to invest in new productive capacity. AKA tin horn dictators Bwhaha bwhaha bwhaha, Great explanation of the circumstances. As you know, our Second Amendment is settled law. Thank you for the info I would like to see the shooting community be a little less greedy if you have enough let those in need buy some. , Recently went on a roadtrip to find primersstopped in a small reloading supply shop,and found shelves stocked with everything from primers to powder to bullets The use of stockpile does not lend itself to a negative implication. First of all, thank you for your prompt attention and delivery of my recent order. keep up the good work, stay safe, and if you acquire any BR4 primers i will take all you can sell all this year. No problem getting brass or bullets, but my press cant run without primers and powder. Knitting? I could see direct to market beong viable these days as well as small players who are Willing to catch that ire. Raw materials and manufacturing have also been limited. Kinda like when a winter storm is coming, you have people buy up a bunch of generators and when lowes or home depot sells out, they sit out in the parking lots and sell them for a large profit.. . Really hard to swallow the full charge when youre limited to 1k. The demand for ammo and reloading supplies continues to skyrocket. In this critical time Im afraid we are going to need them more than ever Respfully. I mostly shoot rimfire around the house, anyway.. Their logic is lacking. You are the only website to furnish us with information. See images (2) and (3) above; When will ammunition be more available and cheaper? Biden would probably have the ttc turn a blind eye though, wouldnt he? Thats simply not anywhere near correct. Boo hoo . CCI and the other primer manufacturers have a lot of public explaining to do. This leaves primers, which are relatively difficult to make, as the component that causes the bulk of ammo shortages. You could keep the limits in place and allow customers the peace of mind that when primers or other reloading supplies are available, they will be delivered in the order received Just a thought. I dont care if they work in a Dillon tube or not just so they work in the cartridges. I understand having limits but 2000 primers and paying hazmat fee with shipping means I will not be buying any primers unless I need powder also. I understand why you limit a 1000 primers per person when you have the primers in stock. VOTING change is what will make a difference! The shortage we are experiencing is being made worse by the profiteers. Normally, we would say stock up. But that time has passed, and I would encourage everyone to learn from this. Walter? What Happened To All The Primers & Ammo 2021? Good lesson to learn. China has been smelting lead for us. A Closer Look at the Primer Shortage. Great more primers for the horders to buy up and never use, just in case shit hits the fan like you really have a chance! If anything it may get worse. With modern manufacturing the availability of primers should had improved but it hasnt. Keep us informed. As far as demand is concerned, a perfect storm of factors has caused a run on the ammo market like weve never quite seen before. I had really cut back on shotgun for a while. Thomas have a good idea. Its time for a new primer manufacturer to step forward. Vince, you absolutely correct!! Big primer flash equaled faster powder burn which resulted in pressure signs. It implies selfish or self-serving behavior. Defend your opinion with solid logic. Thanks , Doug McPeek. Even if they sell exclusively to manufacturers, that means more stock will be available from Olin and Vista. A couple weeks ago I found small and large pistol primers at Sportsman's Warehouse, Columba, SC, for $43 per brick. It wouldnt surprise me if the big boys try and squeeze them out of business by slashing prices beforehand. The ultra-popular H4198, H4895, Varget, H4350, and H4831 family of powders are produced by ADI in Australia **. Glenmoore, PA. Im not a prepper, but Im starting to realize, prepping isnt a bad idea, in moderation. Thats how consumer economics works. Fortunately, we buy about 18 months ahead, but if things dont get better in 2021, Im not really sure what we are going to do. I dont care which so long as its a known. Mark. Gold Medal Centerfire Primer .150. Id shot over 42K for the year with about 22K in primers left. By doing so, a shooter avoids the ups and downs of supply and demand. Keeps pushing their unlawful political policy on the books with absolutely no reason or fallout to them. $100 million invested in the factory, and they hired the neighbors nephew with a harbor freight welder to make the sign on their gate. I understand there is a lot to it, but this is one of those circumstances, in my opinion, that could be effectively addressed by American Ingenuity. I have expanded to casting and sizing bullets for myself, scavenging used brass even in calibers that can be converted. leaders. Home; Shop; Our Story; Contact Us; If I ration what I have, for example, planning on attending several majors and club matches forces me to eliminate all live fire practice until spring. It would help if powdervalley would upgrade website to allow for pre-purchase backorder with ETA pv gets from the big 4. Hornady, maybe? John Richardson over at No Lawyers Only Guns & Money blog put it all together in a report thats great news for Americas gun owners and reloaders. Unfortunately, knitting needles are also in short supply, and the demand for knitting needles has sky rocketed right along with primers. Just my opinion, but! Exactly. Like any other product in a market economy, primers are subject to the whims of supply and demand. While this doesnt impact our frustration it is good to understand. And also the skudel but is the new jurk wont take our guns but will inforce a slow down and in time a halt of production of the supplies needed to use our guns. Dont try to force it down our throats with a side of propaganda. I know I did, 25k SPP, and no I dont have any left.all traded off or sold long ago. I wonder what the cost of opening a new manufacturing plant would be and if its even a feasible idea for these companies. All testing should stop because the false numbers they produce are driving public hysteria. Hodkinson says the risk of death for people under the age of 65 is one in three-hundred thousand and it is outrageous to shut down society for what is merely just another bad flu. Maker of COVID Tests Says Pandemic is Biggest Hoax Ever Perpetrated. Don't expect to see primers on the shelf this year. Shoot less until the supply of components start to rise. The previous shortage was a lesson learned, Something does not add up. You get bits and pieces of information at the local gun stores, but this brings it all together, basically the Perfect Storm. Did I leave anything out? Jack#9. Its hoarders more than any single factor. Category. Login / Join. I have actually started researching reloading primers. Let them sit there, the prices will fall. Prototype production up front please, as fast as you can. That will effectively end businesses like Powder Valley. My couple of thousand rounds in reserve must be preserved as the future is not as rosy as I had hoped. The panic buying always starts when the Democrats are in power or close to getting their hands on power. This is to abolish the Constitution by leftist-interpretation that the Constitution is obsolete and needs to be abolished. Thanks Ryan for update, I feel your grief as I am in the tire business and they are shortages there also, parts for cars, lumber,etc I think the whole country is scared and rightfully so! Democrats are Anti-American and Anti-Constitutional scum. As Americans We all support the Second Amendment. Positive test results do not mean a clinical infection, he says. Has Powder Valley received any primers? Over the last several years, I have purchasing a sleeve (5,000) primers a year, whether I needed them or not. I wasnt up to speed on Remingtons negative impact to the market. Recently, they also have begun a recruiting drive, advertising an on-site job fair they have coming up Jan. 29. Thanks for the explanation of the shortage. There you have it. 1. Great! So Hodgdon can't ship more Varget or H4350 in the USA unless Hodgdon . Industry capacity is roughly 4.6 million primers per day. Read on as the experts from Powder Valley delve deeper into the primer shortage of 2020. Thanks for the informative article. This happened in 2008 and 2012 we had 3 years of low prices and abundance . Thanks for all of the hard work you folks do. Seems a bit weird to me. Thanks for posting! A Massive Increase in Demand. I plan to conserve what I have, purchase at a moderate pace, as AMMO becomes available, and to scoop up any primers & powder I find available. We all know home land and the other armed forces have put in orders for ammo that will keep all manufacturers tied up for 3 to 4 years in the wake there might be a round 2 of a civil war to speek. The timing and political nature of the virus and ensuing propaganda tsunami are not coincidental. Your referenced supporters arent defending the Amendment. Ive spent over $15,000 (us liberals get all are money from George Soros and Hillary Clinton) on weapons and ammunitions this year alone because Im sick and tired of seeing all the crazy gun toting trump supporters carrying their guns and threatening or shooting those they disagree with. Enough that even with hazmat shipping it was under 3 cents a primer. The new administration is definitely anti gun and anti 2A, and right now they have the ability to really hurt that community with the current situation. I realize Im not alone in my frustration but it sure feels like it sitting here in my basement with thousands of brass, bullets, and pounds of powder but no way to set them off??? If they feel the government is trying to track them than have someone in here that took up knitting make you a tin yarn cap. As far as demand is concerned, a perfect storm of factors has caused a run on the ammo market like we've never quite seen before. order. Thanks for the insight. for those of you that are finding shotgun primers, how much are you paying? We never applied a cowboy law mentality to gun ownership. Apparently they cant or else they would have already done it. When there is a primer shortage the first thing people normally point to is consumer hoarding. Not resonable to pay shipping and hazmat on 2000 primers. TulAmmo Non-Corrosive Boxer Primers $ 27. I have plenty of 5.56 on hand. This sounds good. We dont normally get ETAs. This is a grim time to say the least but I am hoping for the best for all of us and that the skudel but is wrong Keep up the good work you all are greatly appreciated. Well, no use getting too tense. I was not out, but a buddy of mine was, so I bought them, and passed them on to him. Sometimes can find a random bag in a Bass Pro/Cabelas in the Florida-North Carolina stretch but I have only seen 2 of them in 3 years. 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