brandons agab may be female but his gender identity was male. Her psychiatrist failed her, which is why there is no clinical literature about her case, her story did not enter clinical annals, the way boy who dreamt of wolves, and other interesting psychiatric patients did. Lotter, Nissen and Brandon. The coffin is pink and gray marble color, and it is noticeably short. In Ca 10 years ago, it cost an extra $90,000 per inmate to imprison someone sentenced to death. Well, after all these years since Hilary won the Oscar, I have finally watched this movie. Tough love. Lana Tisdel testified in Court that she saw both, Teena Brandon and Tom Nissen, for the first time at the Oasis Bar, and it appears that the two were there together. thats literally transphobic. Most likely, Teena re-traumatized herself. The sheriff acted as if she deserved it agh. Aston was killed in the crash. THEY TRIED TO KILL ME Had this been in the military, it would have been seen as great military bearing, instead we have a defiant mug shot. The best way to see Teenas tragedy is as the crime of domestic violence and of violence against women committed against a psychiatric patient who could not deal with what was happening to her the way an average woman her age would. En dcouvrant la vrit sur Teena, ce dernier entre dans une rage meurtrire. But it (identity) doesnt matter, as some commentators would have it. The director of the film, Kimberly Pierce, worked on the script for many . Lotter has admitted to stabbing Brandon because he thought he wasnt dead (and even if he didnt pull the trigger its not like he helped with the murders because Nissen was forcing him)so this is all moot. Whatever you meant, or meant to state, this is actual meaning of your words. Its time for you to share a little humanityyou can handle it. She was a talented actress, she could make people laugh and had leadership potential. When Teenas teen-age father was killed in his car accident, his parents took Teenas pregnant mom in. You people love to ignore using his correct prounons like one way to respect him is use HE AND HIM. We all should. THAT MADE A Indeed, CA estimated then that is cost 10 times more than lifers cost. Lotter is from a prominent local family with many relatives and they are invested in saving him. I am not just saying the way you are saying it, he he trans he. According to his own admission, Teena helped them to get on their feet financially and economically, when they got to Omaha, where were they, when Teena was desperately calling from Falls City to get out of there? Dramatic-license violation: She alleged that the movie used her life story without her permission and unfairly depicted her as a habitual drinker and drug user. They are monsters!!!! Its one of the women he dated source the original Village voice article. JoAnn received only $17,000, according to an account from writer Charles Laurence that ran in the (Ottawa) Citizens Weekly on April 2, 2000. This isnt to deny a genuine pathology exists (I dont know enough to comment) but is to suggest that theres some irresponsible propagation of sexual confusion driven by PC delusion. I tried Facebook to look for someone on both sides but they dont want to talk about it anymore! You can watch the documentary about the case on YouTube. In the first version, Teena was attempting to hide under the blanket, literally tongue tied and paralyzed with terror. Nebraska isnt one of the six states that allow conjugal visits. Tisdel defended Teena often, at one point lying to authorities and telling them she had seen him naked and saw his penis, in hopes they would leave him alone. HE was transgender. (Her husband was John Gregory Dunne and like, Dominick Dunne, he left us too soon, unfortunately.). None that I know. Until next time, cheers. She was tapped to be a manager at a restaurant where she once worked. That, then, reflects a capacity to reason, to scheme and to that degree militates against the notion that they should not be considered culpable. He also provides additional details of Teenas time with her gay cousins in Omaha. When Lotter and Nissen found out that their recently acquired drinking buddy who was dating Lotter's former flame Lana Tisdel was actually a woman whose real name was Teena Brandon, they became enraged. Everyone wanted her to move and she had no place to go, also, for many reasons, she was not the easiest person to get along with. Instead they were on the street and Brandon was the bad person. It isnt. This was apparently with all of the censorship of social media on only one side of the conversation. And if the other victims fail to step forward and if Teena is very scared, what is it they are afraid of, is it Nissens personal capacity of violence or is it a larger gang that he may belong to? Until next time, cheers. Tisdel has made it clear that her relationship with Brandon Teena was brief and did not include sex; only lasting about two months from their first meeting until the murder. If you look closely, you will see some high school level lit about the medieval knights and Christmas, a photocopied notebook, and another notebook, into which Teena is writing. Lotter and Nissen disposed of the murder weapons, a stolen .380-caliber handgun and a knife with Lotter written on its case, by throwing them into the Nemaha River. How offensive to the family of a straight man murdered in identical circumstances that because of his majority orientation the perps can be punished less! In August 2020, Lana suffered a new tragedy when her Ford pickup crossed a center line and fatally injured Chrysler minivan driver Glenn D. Aston in a head-on crash in Fairview, Kansas. VERBALLY/ Plus, its possible that Lotter is just bad at taking written tests. God rest their souls. That is why you see no academic papers about how they treated and attempted to heal Teena. After the Christmas night one of Lisa Lamberts friends called her Brandon. Teena was devastated by the final rejection from the military. Rest in peace, Brandon, Lisa, and Philip. What I would object to, per the above observation, is demand/enforcement/coercion of something that I should be free to offer as a kindness because it is, in fact, counter-factual for the reason you state. She had access to money during her time in Omaha, but never pursued it. I know Teena better than you do. Talk about back water to down trash. For this is the flip side of identity fixation. Im sorry, but where is there evidence of this? Jones leaves stuff out. She dressed, talked, walked and got into much trouble by identifying that way. Steve, do you know how many times Nissen and Lotter beat Teena during the Christmas Eve? Part of it is that her family clammed up. Apart from these pinch points my gender change doesnt need to have much practical issue. He once bolted from a courtroom trying to escape in shackles and got as far as the steps outside the Courthouse. Great post. In addition, according to a State Police report, Teenas sister was trying to get her into a program that helps survivors of rape and domestic violence, and intake staff told her that Tom Nissen had raped other local girls and that the Shriffs Office had failed to prosecute Nissen and that at least two were in their program, so the program staff were aware of Nissen. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. 1 Antagonist. Cowboys with six guns, Gangsters with Tommy guns, gang members with their Colors on the backs of their jackets. I guess for now ill settle for bookmarking and adding your RSS feed to my Google account. And as a gay man myself, I can say that weve had enough of having our stories heteronormalized to make people like you feel more comfortable. Real Teena was an awesome individual who was tarred and feathered in the Falls City. Wanna follow Lana Tisdel's net worth? Finally, one of the last statements that Teena made was there is no Brandon, I am Teena. I suggest you leave the diagnosing to the real medical professionals like the doctor who commented here. Teenas circumstances shout psychosocial mess. What I specifically reject is the notion she was somehow MORE victim or SPECIAL victim cos identity politics says she is via claiming it was a hate crime (hate crime attracting greater censure and punishment than the equivalent non-hate crime). WORK FORCE! On December 19, 1993, Teena was arrested for forging checks; Tisdel paid his bail. You point to another problem: the vested interest in poor performance in IQ testing post-conviction. IN MY HOME TOWN! Lotter, whose criminal record traces back to a 1987 theft and escape conviction at age 16, occupies a cell on death row in the Tecumseh State Correctional Institution. LANA by LANA, released 20 March 2020 1. The Harley riders then started sobering up and making their way over to police to surrender and hoping to cut a deal with prosecutor and get some leniency, none of them were real criminals. I will choose, I will determine, how I express myself as I understand it relates to the world and its people. [7], Tanner Lambert graduated from Humboldt High School in 2011, and was raised by his aunt. Life without parole is done with, while enabling opportunity to reverse a terrible wrong, regardless of the morality of the death penalty. Cost is now certainly an issue in DP debate as it should be. Being slow, stupid or whatever is in principle different from moral indifference. Its a disgrace on many levels. I thought he was absolutely vile. She took more religion electives in school than she did art. A final thought: Id be interested to know why they saved the baby. In addition, Teena was mysogynistic in her abhorrence of womanhood. But you then added that Brandon was saving for surgery. Thereafter Teena actively cooperated, helping the police find the location of the rape, which was ten miles away and out in the dark. Teena Brandon was a much better actress, a vaudevillian, than she was an pencil and paper artist. Falls City is a small town, and all of these families were well-acquainted; Lana's best friend was Michelle Lotter, John's sister. THE COPS!! Based on conversations Teena had with people after the rape, in the car on the way from the hospital and with her sister, emotionally, Teena Brandon was a girl, as opposed to bring a mature woman. In the morning, the newcomer was dead. I think this probably places me somewhat at odds with trans rights but such disagreement makes the world a more interesting and stimulating, if less superficially harmonious, place (though human nature might demand that disagreements in our genes and wed simply find other issues over which to disagree for those that cease to be per consensus) Nor do I think the concept of hate crime is coherent, so that probably places me at some distance from minority rights. L.L. Lotter and Nissen then shot Brandon, Lambert, and DeVine dead. Too bad, Lotter got more help from the well meaning morons trying to get him off the death row than Teena got from highly paid professionals whose job it was to help her. When Teena Brandon was driven back from the hospital after she was raped, the way she talked showed her mental illness and how her symptoms helped her survive prior abuse. There has been scrutiny that the lack of information about DeVine, who was from Iowa, is because he was African American, and Leslie stated she believed he has been left out of the story because of racism. Lotter is not at all remorseful and is incapable of any empathy towards Teena. Lotter described an unusual look in Teenas eyes. And while arguments good, those incapable of engaging with argument resort to assertion and moral coercion: If you disagree with me youre mean/nasty/inhumane Thats dross. A lot of street, lot of bluster and anger. Nissen I believe had two sexual raps but not rape. . Ex-cons John Lotter and Thomas Nissen had targeted Brandon Teena for murder to quiet a rape case against the two ex-cons. They told him they would silence him permanently if he reported it. So I dont get why states allows a inmate to marry. It just gets murkier and murkier until its a free for all like those two Australian pedophiles that were pimping out a 6 year old boy and seemed to think there was nothing wrong with it. CONCERNED Another takeaway from this is that just like Lana, Nissen knew that Teena was a girl before everyone else. P.S. Brandon died at the hands of two low lifes named John Lotter and Marvin Thomas Nissen just before New Years Day of 1994. The killers spared the life of Lamberts baby son, Tanner. But a week after he was arrested on a check-forging. THERE IS A CONTRACT OUT ON MY LIFE! I agree with Jude. In his own mind he has forgiven Teena all her transgressions, and they were always the best of friends engaging in meaningful conversations. One was trying to be happy in his own body and the other two supported him. Dunne is a great writer, but his article about Teena Brandon sucks. (Its down for now.). Teena played a different tune for Lana Tisdel during their visit Teena is upset, listless, asking Lana to get her out of jail. You say that they could have raped anybody, maybe Lisa Lambert, but that is not how domestic violence and criminal underworld work. By same token, any number of women refer to themselves in the masculine in their internal stream of consciousness He being a default for anything not being directly associated with the Female and Feminine. This is important because Tom Nissen is a repeat rapist. Statements like that, and the fact that Nissen let her stay at his house after she got thrown out of Lanas, indicate that Nissen was grooming Teena for rape for some time, contrary to a notion of a hate crime against a trans person, whose gender was suddenly revealed, especially given the fact that Teena was not the first, nor the only person, whom Nissen raped. Is everybodys IQ low in that town? Its absolutely in the public/taxpayers/prisons/other prisoners interests to foster as functioning an inmate as possible, which is why much effort is made to enable inmates to communicate with families. Because Teena was traumatized, she invited domestic abuse against her in the Falls City. Can I tie her up and keep her in my bedroom (until the Court opens after Christmas holidays, so that she can be surrendered there and bail be revoked)? He asked. If you could only see what the world is like now, and how brandon specifically would have had a name and support for what he was going through transgender. While friends would later describe him as sweet, clean cut, and respectable, Brandon did acquire some legal troubles of his own. She COULDVE been posing as male as an experiment perhaps to help her make a final decision on surgery. Of itself, Id say that IQ test result is much too crude a basis to determine criminal culpability (and is not used here in UK). Well as Jude, whom you aver agreement with, asserts Brandon was male, and you imply he WASNT male til the coming surgery (why mention it otherwise? Fourth Case A well to do IT professional who rode Harley on weekends decided to join a biker gang, well, a suburban Harley riders club, no real felons among them. As a physician who provides gender-affirming care for trans persons, as well as primary care for all members of the LGBTQIA+ communities, Ive been humbled and blessed for the privilege of being inspired by their individual journeys. She could not get in the Army because she did not have a high school diploma. Both young men had criminal records, and Teena had been staying with Nissen. What about that so called sheriff. Also in the house was Phillip DeVine, a friend of theirs who was dating Tisdel's sister Leslie. Good point low intelligence is not an excuse for cruel behavior. I believe Teena Brandon has fallen victim to all these lies. Lana's relationship status is single. Nissen served five years as a juvenile previously and he worked as the prison psychologists aide, helping with the classification of inmates. 6 OTHERS, THAT I enjoyed the update, especially knowing that these two low lives are still behind bars. I take it you like to think for yourself, too? Brandon was saving money for gender reassignment surgery before he was slaughtered, it seems like the least we could do is refer to him as he wanted to be. I read somewhere that John Lotter is on the intellectual level of an 8-year-old, which is old enough to know right from wrong. Thanks. How about I knock on your door and tell you that I been looking for a long time for you. If Nissen had raped other local girls before Teena and if pulling the pants off and groping was part of Nissens rape ritual, then Laux would have known this from his interviews of the previous rape victims. the poor kid didnt seem to have a chance and I do not think tainting the truth with more feelings is going to help things. BE GONE! You can try to twist your own transphobic narrative on this subject all you want, but Brandon exemplified in every way the accepted psycbosocial identity of a trans personhe lived and loved as a man at a time when transgender identities were dismissed and vilified as some sort of carnival sideshow or transgressive pervert, and ultimately that is why he was killedby ignorance arguably no different than your own. Teena was an awesome girl! Obviously, Teena Brandons life did not follow that pattern, and unusually, she associated with her male homosexual cousins, but that did not last long, they kicked her back out of their house and back to her mother after she helped them get on their feet in Omaha. Afterwards, Teena came to Tisdel's house, and Tisdel and her mother convinced him to speak to the police and go to the hospital. Your perspective illustrates why intelligent discussion of this issue cant be had with some people, who instead of addressing the argument criticise the person whose argument they dont like or dont understand. Instead of saying I am sorry I raped and murdered your daughter he writes I am sorry I took your daughters love away from you. Eric Koenigsberg writes in his article that Teena had such a fear of rejection, but what most fail to understand is that this rejection was not a rejection in intimacy, but a social rejection. She worked physical labor at a lumber yard. You oppose the death sentence? Intellectual is a bit kind: more probably prisoner/murderer fetishism (hybristophilia a paraphilia (ie, sexual arousal to atypical objects, situations, fantasies, behaviours, or individuals) in which sexual arousal/facilitation/attainment of orgasm are responsive to/contingent upon being with a partner known to have committed an outrage such as rape or murder.) Had there been another victim, with no special characteristic, equally egregiously murdered, would that be any less worthy of concern? After Brandon, 21, filed sexual assault charges, Lotter and Nissen decided to kill him in a case that became the subject of the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 movie Boys Dont Cry starring Hilary Swank. AT ALL TIMES! During a Christmas Eve party, Lotter and Nissen forced Teena to take off his clothes in order to show everyone, including Lana, his genitals. You also try to use her mental illness history as another reason the crime didnt happen due to her trans status but because she tried to ingratiate herself with these thugs. Teena loved authority in the way of any good soldier who will fall in line and gladly stand at attention if the occasion calls for it. No: biological female = female. But Lotter and Nissan dont have a whole lot at stake in that regard. Unlike you I know all of the details of how she was beaten, and I know what it signifies. Nissen later admitted that their original plan was to dismember Brandon, but they didnt have a chance to go through with it, according to court papers. In the fall of 1993, Tisdel, aged 18, met Brandon Teena, 20, through their mutual friends. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. Your email address will not be published. If you are interested in the Matthew Sheppards case there was some interesting controversy surrounding the Steve Jimenez book written about him, The Book Of Matt. I would give identity politics more credence had Teena not been a psychiatric patient with severe symptoms other than gender dysphoria. Thats all for this week. That quid pro quo is what is truly missing in every aspect of our lives right now. Tisdel (pictured above in her 20s), who had dated Brandon Teena who was born a girl named Teena Brandon but dressed and lived as a man also called out Boys Dont Cry for falsely portraying her as having been present during the shootings that killed Brandon, 22, and witnesses Lisa Lambert, 24, and Phillip Devine, 22, just before New Years Day of 1994. She wanted to leave Humboldt since Dec 28 and cops were okay with it. Teena suffered from OCD, Alcohol Abuse, an eating disorder. CITIZENS! He was in fact a transgender man: assigned female at birth. Trending. Incidentally, Boys Dont Cry and the documentary got it all wrong. Lana Tisdel, her sister Leslie, and mother Linda were all involved in the criminal trial and later lawsuits that followed the murder and later, movie development. Taxpayers in DP states need to ask themselves if there could be a WORSE way of spending their money than this! This could have been easily fixed with steroid injections you can get on the street. An imagining of a forlorn and angry karaoke set. Apart from the television works, this American has also appeared in movies. She was hurt as a woman, she suffered as a woman, and her murder was a crime of violence against women. Lana M. Tisdel (born March 28, 1975) is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the 1993 murder of Brandon Teena was chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry. When Lotter and Nissen found out that their recently acquired drinking buddy who was dating Lotter's former flame Lana Tisdel was actually a woman whose real name was Teena Brandon, they became enraged. John Lotter is an insect, a non-entity, nothing resembling a human being. Find your friends on Facebook. Aug. 24, 2000 -- Brandon Teena lived and loved as a man. Shortly thereafter she tried suicide and was put in a psychiatric hospital. None of it is extremely unusual. I HAVE BEEN POISONED, RAN OVER BY A LARGE TRUCK, WHICH I SUFFERED A BROKEN NECK, TRAUMATIC What conditions have to exist for you to let me inside your house and give me a beer? Teena was actually staying at Tom Nissens house. It was a girl, not a boy. You stole the gun. He got into drunken trouble again and his parents did not bail him out of jail. "The scene is a karaoke bar where Brandon Teena's lost love . Shortly after the movies came out, Lana and her mother appeared on A Current Affair and The Maury Povich Show. PRESENTLY. Teena stands her up, takes Lisas car, picks up Lana, and drives her up to Lincoln to go drinking at bars. Another example of Aphrodite Jones changing facts is as follows: Lisa Lambert throws a birthday party for Teena. Pretty as ever. A middle aged middle class man joined them and drank their beer and whiskey and ate the grilled steak with them. These men killed 3 people. AND we all know Lana's Mother HATED Brandon. Lotter and Nissen, both 22, were ex-convicts with insurmountable pasts. Lots of people oppose the death penalty both in moral and practical terms. Name switch. It is a gray and overcast day, and the three of them are either smiling for the photographer or they are grinning. Remove the big lies and pressures on the human condition, as the modern scenario is fiscal slavery to the Central banks and their agencies and all the rest, not already a mortal or moral anathema, will fall into place. 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