Kind of like US WWII small arms, all European theater was rebuilt by FN with no stamps and Pacific theater by Howa again with no stamps. and with several variations. Enter your Chinese type 56, Amazon.com: The SKS Carbine, 5th Revised and Expanded Edition (For Collectors Only) (9781882391141): Steve Kehaya, Joe Poyer: Books, Quote from: BARNAUL on December 30, 2014, 02:15:19 PM, http://sks-files.com/index.php?topic=87.0, Quote from: Taba on January 04, 2016, 10:15:40 AM. It was a gas-operated weapon, intended to exploit the introduction of the new Soviet M43 7.62mm cartridge. Choke to death on your Shabbos Goyim servile, bullshit buying, stooge bile and vitriol, you raving sub-genius, Proto-Commie dumbass PoS. It never had either the Tula Star, nor the Izhevsk Triangle and Arrow from the beginning. Every other countrys SKS variant not previously mentioned falls into this category, and if you even find one, expect to pay out the nose for it. the Tula Armory until 1955. They saw active service with the Albanian military and many were likely used during the Balkan civil war. Of the final four numerals in the serial number sequence from the database, there is an incremental increase which can be observed across all prefix code units, beginning at the number 0030 and ending at 5805. Advantages over the SKS were the selective-fire option, a rifle that They tend to provide adequate documentation of their production facilities during trade agreements. I expected to see the same thing when I disassembled it and really looked. If you have not submitted data please do so. These four numbers indicate the date of manufacture. Watch this video by Alden Morris to know more about dating your Norinco Chinese SKS: Many of these SKS rifles are no longer in large-scale production. Specific historical provenance such as a Vietnam bringback with papers or an extremely rare variation of a model can cause them to be worth far more than normal. Yugoslavian models began to come in along with Romanian and Albanian guns. Login with username, password and session length, A: Believe it or not, this question isn't as straightforward as it seems. also used by several African, Asian, and Middle Eastern armies, as A far cry from the prices of the 90s, but there is a finite supply of Russian SKS carbines in the country and their collectability has driven up both their demand and value. I got a sks book for chrismas and found this way of decoding russian serial numbers, here is how it reads in the book. However, the SKS was widely used in Vietnam, where it provided greater range and better accuracy than the AK47. Modern Firearm. Some even fetch as much as two thousand dollars in online auctions. While they can sometimes sell for amounts that begin to approach Russian SKS prices, they can also still be found for a pretty good deal too. For example, most of the Chinese SKS for sale may come from Factory 26. Pics would really help. The serial number is stamped on the left side, below the receiver cover on Chinese civilian production. to identify the county of origin. It was only available in a semi-automatic version with a dulled bayonet. You are using an out of date browser. For this reason, it is still popular among hunters, and even is employed in many militaries today. Most North Korean and Vietnamese SKSs that entered the country were veteran bringbacks as well. Almost as soon as the SKS was brought into service, it was made County of Origin: Originally manufactured by the Soviet Union, China, Yugoslavia, Albania, North Korea, Vietnam, and East Germany with a small number produced in Romania and Poland. You can still find abominations like this at just about any gun show, usually sitting in front of someone who says things like I know what I got.. The newly imported Russian 'sneaks' all bear China as the country of origin and no attempt was made to translate or renumber these guns. obsolete for Soviet purposes by the new AK-47 by Kalashnikov. The Cugir arrow in a triangle mark is much simpler and cruder than the Izhevsk one, with the Romanian arrow looking like what one would draw to point to something rather than what is used in conjunction with a bow like the arrow on Izzy rifles. This one has a lot of features that are the same as my 54 Tula carbine, so that timeframe seems appropriate. The Russian S/N on the receiver or on any of the parts is. Let me guess, youre the asshole that everybody at the range hates because your weapons discharge at random! For example, a serial number 044922-67 indicates that the SKS was manufactured in 1967. The mark on the receiver cover is very small and hard to see I'm pretty sure I won't be able to photograph it. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***. Japs, you forgot to mention nuking Japs. Enter your Chinese type 56, must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. 39 rifle. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. then just keep using rags until they come out relatively clean. anyone able to help identify this sks serial number k4911 , any help would be appreciate, yes all numbers matchd, Have a norinco SKS Poly Atl Ga ser # 12 03300E , no other markings spike bayonet striper clip feed Clean gun looks unfired an looks to be machined reciever , can you give me some idea of date mfg. 3) 1957 The Arsenal 26 marking begins to appear. There are plenty of online forums where people discuss these things, and thats where you should go if youre looking how to tell an early-style trigger guard from a late-style, or other equally pedantic details. Recently bought a Chinese SKS. Firearms owners who customize their SKS rifles with composite furniture, aftermarket rails, optics, forward pistol grips, and upgraded trigger assemblies usually assume their rifles monetary value goes up. The SKS-Files Comprehensive Chinese SKS Survey V2.0 is open to new entries. Info on that can be found in the stickies at Sksboards.com Hopefully martin08 will be along shortly to elaborate on these. Those importers sure did some funky stuff to mark a gun! SKS Semi-Automatic Rifle The SKS was developed as a semi-auto carbinemuch like the U.S. made M1 Carbinebut was soon replaced by select-fire AK47. Not entirely known. Those that badrap Norinco small arms metallurgy dont know what theyre talking about. How to find the year of manufacture of a SKS rifle? For an introduction to more surface-level SKS analysis, however, read on. These are the rarest and therefore most collectible SKS variants, at least when it comes to what can be found in the States. But if you have deep pockets and an interest in collecting some of the rarer examples out there, the skys the limit. I've disassembled the entire rifle and the only mark on any of the interior parts are the ExxxN (backwards N) on the large piston and a K on the head of the bolt pin. The Chinese clearly had an affinity for this design, not only producing it in the largest numbers of any nation but for the longest duration and with the most amount of experimentation and development. The other one is even more random. Other factories in China produced the SKS as well, but all use a similar symbol to identify the factory, typically a stylized number inside of a triangle. Re: Q: What is my Russian SKS's true S/N? the Cold War the Soviet Union shared design and production details 1992: SKSS, new production, 16.5" barrel, short gas system. Thanks for colecting and sharing this great information. If you own a Norinco SKS, maintaining it in its original condition will guarantee you can hold its real value in the market. While China, Russia and a few other nations still likely have warehouses full of the things, U.S. law prevents any new batches from being imported from these countries. While the bulk of these recent imports had very poor condition stocks and finishes, most were still serviceable and fine shooters. I did put 20 rounds thru her. I have data that starts at 1966 with the letter "D" and goes through 1989 back to the letter"C". why letter I for 1957? Later one, after serial number 9,xxx,xxx (1965) will have a spike. Determining manufacturer and date can often be found using the serial number on the receiver. Specialists in Marketing Your Gun Collections, Number Produced: Millions from various manufacturers. It is in immaculate condition. !. Stopped at a couple gun shops today and saw this SKS on the rack. If you think that, then why was rifle 3,15y,yyy built in 1957 a full 3 years after your rifle? Early models, Izhevsk-produced models and very nice condition examples easily sell for a grand or more these days. Norinco Sks Tapco Serial Number Location. At first glance, a Romanian M56 will be indistinguishable from a Russian SKS, but certain markings and their location will allow you to differentiate between them. Login with username, password and session length. You are amazingly stupid. SKS-FILES exclusive announcement!! $700.00. Your Republicans have been in power since January, and I notice they have done squat about repealing the import ban. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Photos from various auction sites and internet postings are used under 17 U.S. Code 107, fair use, not for profit educational purposes. The main portion of the number consists of 1, 2, 3, or 4 numerals. It was developed alongside the new M43 cartridge in the final years of WWII, even supposedly having a few early-production models seeing field trials in Belarus and Berlin before the European theater finally came to an end. models do. I had found a couple of those already, but the others will keep me busy for a while. adopted officially by the Soviet Army till 1949 and was produced by The SKS-Files Comprehensive Chinese SKS Survey V2.0 is open to new entries. The Romanian SKS rifles check the end of the serial number, there is a dash followed by four numbers, this is the year produced. RUSSIA SKS45: Tula 49, 50, 51 x2, 53 x2, 54, 57(); Izhevsk 53, 54. Have a Yugoslavian SKS with the serial number C-317## (censored the last two digits). At the end of the serial number, there is a dash followed by two numbers. During this period, we've seen how it has evolved from the original design to the many variations. A version of the SKS sold with a detachable clip, which could hold many more bullets, was banned in 1989. The cookie is set by GDPR cookie consent to record the user consent for the cookies in the category "Functional". . Here's another '54 example. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. In the current state of the market, for anyone interested in acquiring their first SKS, their best bet would be to hunt for one of the more generic Chinese models in good shape for about $400-$450. The number is the factory number, and there are serial number lookup lists online. I have an SKS with the numbers matching ER 2631. Who makes and what year? For example, a serial number 044922-67 indicates that the SKS was manufactured in 1967. NES/MFS April Giveaway ***Ruger Wrangler***, Russian SKS Numbers matching. We might not ever be able to crack it but it sure would be cool to figure it out! However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. If you want to know the production information of a Chinese SKS rifle, the following may come in handy. The white picture in the post with the square with the diagonal line in it is the rebuild Ukrainian arsenal mark and it is absolutely the only thing on the receiver cover. Irrespective of the confidence with which they assert such claims, individuals like this typically do not know what they got. This number indicates the year of manufacture. Military surplus Type 56 models were brought in as well, along with some of the rarer commercial variants like the SKS-D or Model M which feed from AK magazines. The SKS-Files Comprehensive Chinese SKS Survey V2.0 is open to new entries. But it is still the serial prefix that was given to the rifle when imported. They at first decided to stamp a new number right beside the old, original Russian S/N: Then they decided to try something different and force a S/N to fit where a S/N really didn't fit! JavaScript is disabled. experimental design. The "X" digit is the year of mfg. By bacarnal in forum Other Military Service Pistols and Revolvers, By in_the_right in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles, By Bulls-I_24 in forum Soviet Bloc Rifles. It is a semi-automatic weapon that fires rounds that measure 7.62x39mm. It seems that the majority of DDR SKSs were given as military aid to North Vietnam and later Croatia, resulting in the majority being lost in the haze of the conflicts each were involved in. Your email address will not be published. They were produced at both the Tula (arrow in star factory symbol) and Izhevsk (arrow in triangle in circle factory symbol) and depending on the year of production they could have either hardwood or laminate stocks. Albania, North Korea, Vietnam, and East Germany, Romania and Poland As an example 2 sks carbines in our survey were manufactured in 1950 and 1952. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Head over to our website to find what you're looking for. eg: /26\ *** 12345678 - Other factories If you do find one, however, it would compliment a WASR or other Romanian AK very nicely. 0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic. Depending on the rifle's nation of origin, you can usually determine its manufacturing date from the serial number or a separate date stamp. SKS Collecting And Identification: A Buyers Guide, Blade Show Texas And Texas Gun Experience Team Up, Usurping The King: .224 Valkyrie Vs 5.56 NATO, 5 Best AR-10 Options You Can Actually Afford (2023). Commie Bottom Boi, feces smearer, jizz gargler sezWHUT ? In my recollection, the only Soviet variation which has a Cyrillic letter both before and after the serial number would be the Izhevsk Arsenal SKS-45. The Norinco SKS parts should also be original and in good condition. While expensive for their condition, in todays surplus market that seems to be as low as any dealer is willing to sell them for. This rifle was a less radical "just in case" for the AK-47's in 2002, Inter Ordinance and Century Arms imported quantities of SKS's from the former Yugoslavia. The SKS-Files Comprehensive Chinese SKS Survey V2.0 is open to new entries. Differences between factory markings, years of production and the manufacturing methods of specific individual components can all result in an SKS being worth more than average, but those details are only important to serious collectors. You only need to type in the make, model, and serial number. Not having a star for Russian manufacture nor Chinese symbols or marking for Chinese manufacture is a bit puzzling to a novice investigator like me. All SKS Parts; SKS Barrels; SKS Bolt Carrier; SKS Lowers; SKS Magazines & SKS Clips; SKS Stocks & SKS Handguards; . To be fair, identifying and appraising an SKS is not always the easiest of tasks, but it is very doable if you know what to look for. Look at the four-digit number underneath the stamped star on a Russian rifle. The origin of SKS rifles produced in other countries is easier to find. As relations between the U.S. and China improved they began to take advantage of Americans love of cheap, reliable firearms. For example, the serial number 419998 indicates a manufacturing date of 1960. Yugo SKS serial number identification. thanks. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. 5. My receiver says factory 0136 which I read is another number for factory 26. The dual Cyrillic prefix system was used long before the SKS as MNs sport them all over the place. The acronym in English reads as Samozaryadny Karabin sistemy Simonova, 1945, or Self-loading Carbine of Simonov, 1945. For example, a serial number 044922-67 indicates that the SKS was manufactured in 1967. Thanks for all the links, guys. The most common Yugo SKS pattern is the Zastava M59/66 PAP which was built under license from the USSR. What's the name of the book & author Tony? also mine does not have the cyrillic N behind the SN#'s. Location: Idaho. There were only about 24 million SKS rifles produced throughout China. These S/Ns typically start with a dual Cyrillic prefix, though single Cyrillic prefix S/N's from Izhevsk certainly exist. This guide will show the easiest ways to determine an SKS country of origin and what you should generally expect to pay for one in the current market. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Literally, millions of SKSs (along with plenty of cheap 7.6239 to feed them) were imported from China between the mid to late 80s and 1994 when President Clinton signed the Norinco Ban, making them the most abundant SKS variant in the United States by far. There are four observed prefix codes to the serial numbers, 62, 63, 64, and 65. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Looking for a product featured in this video? There exists the greatest level of variation between models when it comes to the Chinese SKS. I know we talked about it before but I forgot your name. For example, a serial number 2958E441967 indicates that the SKS was manufactured in 1967. Examples from other countries can be found for lower prices and will shoot just as well, so at this point, it's best to leave Russian SKSs to the collectors if youre only looking for a range toy or ranch gun. While these were also very affordable at the time, they never reached the same levels of abundance or inexpensiveness as the Chinese guns. If so, there were very likely spare blank covers available to the arsenals for refurbishment. You have entered an incorrect email address! use by various third-world militias and insurgent groups as well as This self-loading carbine was the creation of Soviet firearms designer S G Simonov. Frangible Ammo For Defense Against Intruders Of All Kinds, Ammo Lingo: Decoding Whats On The Store Shelf, 3 Places To Buy Guns Online, And A Few Tips To Help, What To Look For When Buying New Guns For First Time Users, Custom Hunting Rifles Part 1 Magpul Hunter 700 Remington SPS AAC Precision Rifle, American Hunting Rifles In Action | The Ruger American Rifle, Modern Shooter: An In Depth Look At 38 Special, The 10 Coolest Guns Youve Never Heard Of. The end of Chinese imports was conveniently timed with the fall of the USSR, however, resulting in the newly formed Russian Federation satisfying SKS demand until it too was cut in 1998. There is a quick online search for SKS rifles coming from countries other than Russia. Thanks, The Spike Bayonet on one that a friend of mine has is not dulled, and it came out of the Cosmoline and paper wrap like that. The only time you can tell by serial number is if it was made at the #26 arsenal - you will see a triangle with a stylized 26 in it /26\. In any case it's interesting and a fine rifle, rebuild by someone who knew how to do it. Yes, America loves to slaughter people who dare to refuse to bend the knee to them. How many times should a shock absorber bounce? Any SKS that has a stock that fully hides the gas tube and features three distinct, larger-than-average vent holes is undoubtedly Albanian in origin. A year later and I'm still getting a bit out of my mosins. Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. At the end of the serial number, there is a dash followed by four numbers. The r. following the year stands for the Russian word for year. Look at the four-digit number underneath the stamped star on a Russian rifle. Christina Sloane has been writing since 1992. Registered Member. These four numbers indicate the date of manufacture. Click to expand. I will stick with my first assessment. If all the serial numbers match the engravings on the lower assembly, shoulder stock, and barrel, then the value of that SKS should hold. -Serial number is located on the left side of the stock, perpendicular to the barrel. In the 1980s, however, that began to change. The first transliterates to the 121,062th Carbine, manufactured in 1950, and the second to the 40,367th carbine built in 1952. Gunsmithing | How to Build an AR-15 Upper Receiver, Ammo Lingo Part II: Understanding +P Ammunition, AR 15 Lower Receiver And Ammunition | Basics Of The AR-15 Part 2, Stoeger Coach Supreme | Gun Carrier Shotgun Reviews, Handgun Reviews: The Colt Lightweight Commander, Gun Scopes And Sights You Should Invest In, Gear Review: NightForce SHV 4-14X56 Riflescope, Product Review: Leupold Mark 4 M5 ER/T Scope. Standard commercial variants with spike bayonets are the most common, but they were manufactured by and imported from several different factories. Very early Russian examples didnt have chrome-lining either, but it was quickly added and copied by every other nation to produce the design. YouTube prevents us from posting links. Scoreboard boy, scoreboard. small number produced in Romania and Poland. Im done with your raving, psycho excuse for a personality. Their extremely low prices caused many Americans to view them as poorly made garbage guns not worthy of respect, leading some to victimize them with amateur gunsmithing projects that resulted in poorly welded-on scope rails, home-modified stocks and distasteful rattle can jobs. There's usually tons of proof marks on the bolts and carriers from both Tula and Izhevsk factories. The guy also has a Norinco 1911A1 thats really nice and was freely available in The USA before the Commie pervert rat Bill Clinton put a stop to Chinese small arms importation. This type of import serialization is typical of the early Century Arms Imports. What the rifles from these import batches lack in terms of prettiness, they make up for in historical provenance. martin08 - Disclaimer. With relatively few remaining SKSs around the globe that can legally be brought into the U.S., prices began rising as soon as availability went down. Yugoslavian SKSs are one of the more common kinds in the U.S. after Chinese guns, and theyre the most distinctive and easy to identify as well. BTW The SKS is a great Communist rifle that the Viet Cong used with great effect in killing American Imperialist scum while liberating their country from our puppet in Hanoi. Enter for a chance to WIN this Customized AR-15when you sign up today for our exclusive email newsletter subscription. Produced at the UM GRAMSH factory, Albanian SKSs are some of the rarest in the United States excluding the true unicorns that will be discussed below. The symbol indicates which factory the rifle came from and an estimate of the production date. Thanks. You should not rely solely on information contained in this email to evaluate the product or service being endorsed. Please know that some rifles Those 4 digit numbers I just mentioned would be arsenal marks ( where they where made). Most, but not all, Chinese SKSs have a spike or pig-sticker type bayonet as well. The 7 digit serial number kind of fit with Chinese manufacture but it takes many years of study to see all the variations. 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