Im very proud of that background. Who is he to deny these people a pride in their national identity?" It should be dirtier, it should be harsher., It is hard to imagine how it could be. He is published inTheNew Frontier: Reflections From the Irish Border(New Island Books, 2021) an anthology of new writing from some of Irelands greatest contemporary authors marking the centenary of partition. But you dont have to be angry. It was quite painful for Saul to read it all back, says Stripe. Original reporting and incisive analysis, direct from the Guardian every morning. Im going to go and try Margate for a bit, I think being half Algerian, raised in Northern Ireland and Scotlandtheres some sort of connection there, between the Berber people and the Celtic people. Youre not from a middle class background. I feel like an unresolved human being. Bang to rights. What are you going to do? PKM: Lets talk about your prose writing a bit: Life Beyond the Neutral Zone, was wonderful to read, I had so much fun reading that. The Grass Arena by John Healy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography, 5. It conjured up an image of a place. Once art school finished though, once the student loan gravy train ground to a halt, I found maintaining any kind of fixed abode problematic. I decided that on the basis of my intellectual merits and soaring grades I was beyond reprimand of any kind, that should I choose to humiliate myself rigorously using only my confused self image and a jar of sculpting gel I should be free to do so. Since forming in 2011, Fat White Family have released three acclaimed albums of insalubrious post-punk and are known for their provocative live performances. I might as well be looking in the mirror., Before they formed Trashmouth a decade ago, the May brothers had carved out their own successful career in dance music as the duo Medicine 8. Macbeth followed it in November. . Its hard not to get channelled into the same sort of cul-de-sacs youve been down loads of times before. A couple of days ago I recorded this episode of the podcast with the group's brothers, Lias and Nathan Saoudi, who told me . I dont feel like I learn anything about Joe Talbot by listening to Joe Talbot. It did not go quite as planned. Within six months I think well have a very different landscape. In 2011 he . Julian House designedGood Pop, Bad Pop& also brought his unique graphic sensibility to bear on this edition of theNew Review. Its as if the lyrics have been generated by a Guardian designed algorithm, every red button issue of the day systematically addressed in the most predictable way imaginable. The social solidarity. Its an oxymoron. Typical of my big brother, hes so irresponsible in so many ways. Are you going to take Caravaggio off the wall because he killed a bloke? Nihilist? I dont understand where the line is. You can get in with a CMJ badge too (based on capacity). To find out more, click here. Ingrid Marie Jensen is a member of New South Story Lab. I hope people refuse that, completely. #fatwhitefamily, @-webkit-keyframes"dkaXkpbBxI"{ 0%{opacity:0.5;} 50%{opacity:1;} 100%{opacity:0.5;} } @keyframes"dkaXkpbBxI"{ 0%{opacity:0.5;} 50%{opacity:1;} 100%{opacity:0.5;} }, Fat White Family last night at Bowery Ballroom. Youre crashing on couches, youre in vans, youre in planes, and with the new social distancing requirements that kind of work is going to be so different. Im sorry. And she said she disagreed with the material fundamentally. I definitely feel like I dont have a tribe.. I went to one the other day and I thought that was the best possible way young people could come back together after something like that. The histories relate quite closely. She said, Because you carry around home between your teeth. Theres a certain amount of sense in that. Anyone willing to sweat nuts and bolts on stage like that, regardless of the underlying message, deserves our respect, and for that I duly salute them. Last time I saw him it was complete shithouse, he has a rep for shithouse live gigs which hes carefully cultivated for about 30 years. Lias Kaci Saoudi from Fat White Family performs at We Love Green Festival Day 02 on June 5, 2016 in Paris, France. [5], In early 2014, the band launched a PledgeMusic campaign to fund their show at the South by Southwest festival, with a subsequent US tour. Around this time i met and fell completely in love with a girl from school whom Id been passionately staring at in the corridors, classes and halls for the last three years. Get Lias Saoudi setlists - view them, share them, discuss them with other Lias Saoudi fans for free on setlist.fm! It was the very definition of first love. Jeannette Lee and Kim Sion had excellent suggestions. Given Joe Talbots comments relating to my shameless trolling in The Guardian last week, Id like to take this opportunity to clarify my position. Id been bullied and battered a bunch of times growing up but no beating contained such archaic mystification as that one. Ladies and Gentlemen, this then is Lias Saoudi. You dont want to be in the middle of the countryside with just a dog, do you? But this was just spellbinding, it was such a dense experience. We shouldnt go outside. But it turned out he didnt say it because he genuinely cared for the safety of the band, he said it because he had arranged to meet his dealer. Depending on what kind of guests you have round for tea or whatever, its the ultimate coffee-table placement the ultimate conversation-starter. Their latest, for Look Like A Man (premiering exclusively with tQ above), finds Lias his features glamourised into the uncanny valley by augmented reality filter, his voice pitch-shifted up looming and gyrating from a platform at The Cause. I gave up on collecting records around 13 years ago. Whos to say what is and isnt personal to someone? Everything was all mixed up. He was waiting for the man., What did the band make of the book? Ive been reading loads of stuff like that recently. The Irish News. I dont really belong anywhere, you know? Listen to Snow Is Falling in Manhattan by Purple Mountains. Author: Adelle Stripe and Lias Saoudi. We did a few demos earlier on in the year. Im saying: this is what I believe in. [Laughs] That was such a terrible move.Was it Shartic Monkeys?". It was only ever really going go one way to a certain extent, which was complete anti-authoritarianism. If I could get back into that headspace I was in at the Berghain when I was doing the indie band onstage, where its not about anything other than expressing yourself in whatever freakish way it occurs to you in that moment, that would be a nice thing to import. Theirs is the sound of an inverse solidarity, one that revels in the sanctimonious condemnation of people not quite up to speed whilst offering up no valid counter strategy. Whats happening now has really disturbing shades of authoritarianism. What about Keir Starmer? He is wearing a grey woollen rollneck, his hair tightly cropped, his face a little fuller than when I last saw him perform topless, cheeks drawn, lank black hair down to his shoulders. Instead, he says he was inspired by his recent viewing of David Cronenburgs M. Butterfly, in which a French diplomat falls in love with a traditional Chinese opera performer who is in fact a male spy in disguise as a woman. All rights reserved. *Migrant workers from East Timor whod recently been brought in en masse to work the jobs at the meat packing plants, who the locals considered beneath them. It was only ever going to be like that. Hes never on his way to the party, hes always like, Do you know what? But it also serves practically as an incredibly useful guide to what you might read next. 250 subscribers in the TheFatWhiteFamily community. I though it was one of the most positive things Id seen on the streets of London, ever. But then it also hasnt helped my martyr complex. Share . I didnt want to sit and watch Countdown., Well, thats not quite true. Seeing your friends after months, the hangovers just end up blaring into each other. [8][9] Lias Saoudi described the album as an attempt to really to get at the shittiness lurking in the core of my own soul, and in everybody else's.[10] It was promoted with a single for "Whitest Boy on the Beach",[11] which was later chosen for the closing credits of the 2017 film T2 Trainspotting. Support tQ's work by becoming a subscriber and enjoy the benefits of bonus essays, podcasts and exclusively-commissioned new music. So yes, one day I genuinely had to stop myself driving up to London and finding him [Lias Saoudi, Fat White Family] because I go through fits and pangs of, like: 'Fuck off, just leave us alone'. I dont really belong anywhere, you know? I had moved there from the west coast of Scotland after my parents split up several years before, my mum having married an accountant from the area after throwing in the towel with my dad. It was Quinns idea to start booking some early live shows, the most pivotal of which was at 2019s Glastonbury Festival. "For no other phenomenon in music over the last few years elucidates more clearly the brazen inconsistencies of the U.S. import social justice faith currently permeating every facet of our culture. Adamczewski was thrown out in 2015 (he has since been welcomed back, is clean and recently became a father for the first time). Abject hopeless nihilism. Heroin just f***s everything up. Harmer pitched a tent in the graveyard at the end of the road. Fat White Family: Midnight Chats Episode 71, How Sheffield saved and then made Fat White Family potent, Fat White Family are so good live they made a woman stop looking at her mobile phone. Theres an article called The collectors, which explores different aspects of collecting through interviews with Peter Blake, artist Andy Holden, quilt-maker Loretta Pettway Bennett, digital archivist (& activist) Stephen Ellcock & others. The band were supposed to do an ultra-late-night set at Baby's All Right but it ended up not happening. Like Lias, the Mays know the stresses of brotherhood in music. Retrieved 19 April 2019. Lias Kaci Saoudi is a writer, artist and musician, and the front man of genre-bending iconoclasts Fat White Family. Or did I think I was laying things away for a rainy day? You have to give up on that yourself., 'Ten Thousand Apologies: Fat White Family and the Miracle of Failure by Lias Saoudi and Adelle Stripe is out on Thursday 24 February, published by White Rabbit (20), Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies. It wouldve been in my house, we had Michael Jackson records because my dad was into him. Saodi added, "When you grow up economically oppressed in a world which offers you ever diminishing prospects, a world where violence and abuse are the norm, sooner or later the hopelessness of it all has a fairly good chance of morphing into hatred: labelling these people scum isnt progressive, its decadent. And he is appalled by what he describes as the establishment of a state of self-surveillance. It definitely planted a few seeds. Later, he was speaking with brothers Luke and Liam May, whose label Trashmouth Records had put out early releases by The Fat Whites (and their predecessor The Saudis), about his experience. The band were surprised, they say, when some people they showed it to were concerned about their choice of imagery. That being said, when I saw the group play a tiny venue in France a few years back, just before they blew up, it was obvious they were pouring every fibre of their beings into the performance. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? So what begins as a kind of formulaic rereading ends up becoming quite shocking, exposing borderline damning bits of self-exhibition and self-laceration. Everyone was naked, fucking each other on a cocktail of drugs and it never stopped. Why? As well as the unparalleled joy of keeping the publication alive, you'll receive benefits including exclusive editorial, podcasts, and specially-commissioned music by some of our favourite artists. Theyre just transient and it either resonates or it doesnt and the best you can do is completely ignore that hullabaloo. [18] It is nominated for the 2023 Penderyn Music Book Prize. I hate videos that dont have rhythm, some are really elaborate and have a story or whatever, but most of the time I think they detract from the music, says Luke. Her mother would bring us 6 bottles of Miller beer and order us a pizza on a Friday night. It went down really well! insists Quinn, who says the gig in fact ended up being pivotal in inspiring the band to keep stepping things up. Its awful when you get a public rinse down; I should have at least qualified my comments last year. But the process of writing Ten Thousand Apologies forced Saoudi, whom Stripe describes as a mix of Harold Steptoe, Oscar Wilde and Adrian Mole, to confront many of the conflicts and resentments he and his bandmates had avoided for years. Co-written with lucidity and humour by singer Lias Saoudi and acclaimed author Adelle Stripe, Ten Thousand Apologies is that rare thing: a music book that barely features any music, a biography as literary as any novel, and a confessional that does not seek forgiveness. PKM: Fat White Family have such diverse backgrounds. Its different, now. We were in London, but we were never really accepted, and it was like a building stew of animosity. Join Facebook to connect with Lias Kaci Saoudi and others you may know. The two years that its taken to pen Ten Thousand Apologies with Adelle Stripe I now refer to as the great silence. He holed up at a . Its real close to the bone about that kind of experience where youre half working-class northern, half Muslim immigrant and the inevitable disconnects things just dont quite approximate, in a way. Continue this thread. It would've been in my house, we had Michael Jackson records because my dad . [17] Writing in the Observer, Miranda Sawyer described it as 'the story of a band thats always on the brink: of stardom, of madness, of brilliance, of disgrace.' They make me powerful. Come To Me Villas initial non-descript launch was back in 2014 (at the beginning of last year it received a more publicized re-release as a full EP), with further one-off releases coming once a year in 2015, 2016 and 2017. It was the only thing I used to whinge about; the constant Dylan. I prefer to draw no line., Saoudi has found his stride now, but he pauses briefly to finish his Guinness. The same dozen ideas or so present themselves endlessly, or I submit and just hand over the reins to Spotify. ^ Campbell, Brian (19 February 2016). I went to a Protestant school as a result. Theres no deeper concept behind them and no deliberate provocation, they insist other than doing just that. People have this illusion that we live in a liberal democracy, he says, but that ran out of steam quite a while ago and the world we live in is something much more akin to the one I experienced in China 12 years ago, only here people seem faintly more invested in the delusion that its anything other than a controlled society. PleaseKillMe.com is the home of Please Kill Me: the Uncensored Oral History of Punk. We (Fat White Family) were planning on starting tracking stuff this month. Given the complete absence of any kind of social life I was incredibly studious and this proved easy to accomplish. Lead singer of Fat White Family, Lias Saoudi, self-pens a Bakers Dozen of thirteen musical choices that map his early life to the present day, from Ireland to Scotland, Cambodia to Algeria, via dark country and the howling void. Ratfucker by Armand Schaubroek https://trouserpress.com/reviews/armand-schaubroeck-steals/. I was so terrified I was gonna get crushed, I was this little dude getting thrown around, it was horrible. You know, theres a Maya Angelou quote where someone was asking hershe disliked Thomas Wolfes book, You Cant Go Home Again. And someone asked her, why dont you like that book? The kids in Cookstown, Northern Ireland, had few pastimes outside of . Their lead singer talks to Rupert Hawksley about their darkest days, and why Elvis Costello has capitulated to the controlled society, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Writing during lockdown, says Saoudi, was the first time Id been truly happy creatively since I was a teenager. You just quietly curse the day you were born until its over, channel that self-despising energy, and then its the end, he says. We werent trying to package it in that way, but people picked up on that stuff without it being explained or explicit., Meanwhile, the project now known as Decius (named after the relatively obscure Roman Emperor remembered primarily for his brutality; the group employ a Roman laurel as a visual trademark), was remaining casual. Dance music can be quite conservative, Liam continues. He wrote, "In a state of frenzied arrogance around 18 months ago I took it upon myself to hurl a few digital petrol bombs at some of the countrys most beloved acts from the comfort of my hovel in Streatham. That was the main sentiment running through it. Musician Lias Saoudi discusses with Ivan six things which should be better known. A left in love with its own marginality. Publisher: White Rabbit. Lias Kaci Saoudi is on Facebook. Their debut album, Decius Vol. I wouldnt ever listen to Blur now but at the time there was a kind of melancholy about it. [3], They released their debut album, Champagne Holocaust, in 2013, on UK label Trashmouth Records. They were musical geniuses. (Seen and called, Connan.) Saoudi later tells me that, during the second or third lockdown, he cant remember which, he found himself in Ireland with another writer. When the pandemic ended more or less all live music for the duration a few months into the following year Fat White Familys 2020 touring schedule was wiped out in an instant Decius informality meant they weathered the storm quite easily. Open a drawer. I guess by [the standards of] a normal persons life I was definitely a junkie as well. PKM: The Indian novelist Kamala Markandaya said that in order to write about something, in order to get it done, she had to be infuriated. To many in 21 st century Britain, the days of overtly political music are over, but not for Lias and his co-songwriter Saul Adamczewski, who is an admirer of 1990s post-punk outfit The Make-Up for . Usually its like, oh, we gotta hit this part of this cycle at this pointthats all gone. Other collections are more conscious: books, records, trainers, T-shirts, likes. Discover Weekly? We were homaging the kind of place where house music came from, gay, Black clubs in Chicago and New York, basically. Fuck all you lot. I didnt have to consult with [bandmates] Saul [Adamczewski, lead guitarist] or Nathan [Saoudi, keyboard player and Lias brother], I didnt have to deal with hype. Once all that was gone, I had no hankering.". All the action from Coachella 2023 weekend one in dazzling photos, Solar and Moonbyul on the creation of MAMAMOO+: It was a road we had to achieve at some point, Evil Dead Rise: inside the years scariest horror film, Triviums Matt Heafy talks loving Call Of Duty and Final Fantasy in Playback, Nicholas Hoult: Skins captured that moment Euphoria captures it now. The second surprise is his appearance. I liked uppers and socialising and chasing girls around. But how will COVID-19 effect gigs? That posture is kind of infinite., John Denver Take Me Home, Country Roads, It goes down well if you can hit what I call the leap of faith moment. Like, always siding with the IRA. Of lias saoudi birthday essays, podcasts and exclusively-commissioned New music Glastonbury Festival: //www.theguardian.com/books/2008/aug/05/biography 5. As well Countdown., well, thats not quite true he pauses briefly to finish his Guinness to a extent. 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